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vit_rI continue my comparison from the previous discussion.
We were many times told that the (West-)German education is on decline since 80th. The schoolbooks I have seen prove this opinion. However I would say that the Swiss education system is far ahead of German colleagues. If I compare the German and the Swiss education systems I would say in one sentence that this is an ignorant incompetence vs. an aggressive incompetence.
The school education in all European countries has failed to answer the challenges of the new century. The school today mistakes "hamsteredge" for knowledge and extends the Perfection Gap instead of removing it. Most teachers do not have any understanding of the educational psychology, of the pedagogic and even of the disciplines they teach. The explanations of simplest things in schoolbooks are chaotic, abbreviated and incomplete.
There are a lot of attempts to create a "modern school" but the public knows only the advertisements crated by pedagogical theoreticians who get money for describing only real or imagined advantages. I have seen a lot of such advertisements for German and Swiss schools. The first hand experience confirms that they are too optimistic.
Below is a short list of some differences of public schools in Germany and in Switzerland I have experienced myself. I have heard many stories that contain more interesting information. I do not mention them here. There are also many extraordinary achievements in our case and I have an official permission from July 12 2018 to describe them publicly with real names but I would rather wait the results of questions our lawyers had asked official authorities.
Switzerland has much better possibilities to replace a public school with a private school or with homeschooling.
German parents often take their children from private and alternative schools and place them into public schools because they would give their children a better education level in a more competitive environment. Swiss parents advise to avoid public schools at any cost. (This cost is quite high but I agree with this advise.)
You would spend for a private school more than 2000.- CHF per month and per child and in most cases you pay not for an extraordinary education but for a less aggressive environment. However private schools and special schools are the places of exile for "improper children" and my sons have met many interesting kinds of them, both peaceful and not.
This comparison affects only public schools. I also do not explain the common fundamental flaws and describe only differences. In case you do not believe me I could assure you that the reality had exceeded even my worst assumptions. Unfortunately this are not some random errors in a good system. This are the ways this system is designed to operate. I had dug to the roots but I won't start explanations here. Below is a simple list to enjoy and to wonder.
The level of Swiss education is lower than in Germany. I think even lower than in NRW! However I could admit they have more foreign language lessons because French is the second obligatory language of the state. (It seems they are ready to dispose of it in the German speaking part in the near future.)
Schoolbooks are worse. Also are the public school teachers I have seen.
My children had used the ground script ("Grundschrift", a simplified form of handwriting) only in the first year of the German primary school before they had learnt the proper way to hold a pen and could start to use the classical cursive ("Schreibschrift"). The Swiss school describes the writing in cursive as a sin forced by parents.
Yes. This is written in an official document.
German teachers have many funny ideas about mathematics but Germany is far better in it. 12 year old Swiss in the 4th year of the primary school study the multiplication on 2 and have problems with it.
Miraculously enough a ETH student was also unable to divide 28 on 4, was forced to use a calculator and it was clearly seen that he was surprised with the answer. Unfortunately this was the day I brought my primary school old son to Zurich to show him the advances of the Swiss science and of the higher education.
The Swiss schoolbooks I have seen can explain how this misunderstanding of basic mathematical ideas and facts could be achieved but the Swiss ways to teach languages is more interesting.
I have seen the following table on the wall of a class in a primary school. This Hohfuri-table is my absolute favorite.
People who know basics of German immediately understand the beauty of the Swiss pedagogic.
For the readers who do not know German I would show the table which could be used in a German school.
Do you see the difference?
German school would also use a boring clear table for exceptions ("starke Verben") which change the main part such as "bleiben - blieb", "lesen-las", etc. For instance
I was not able to guess the purpose of the Hohfuri-table and of many similar things I have found in Swiss schoolbooks until I had realized the true goals of the Swiss school education. The Swiss do not like to speak about this. Foreigners see the results but do not understand how they had emerged. If you could know the true meaning of the words you could find that the real goals are stated in many official documents and the teachers follow them.
This is going to produce catastrophic results in the future but there are a lot of reasons why many people and organizations get short time benefits from this situation. Swiss misleading form of teaching is truly genial but this is a theme for long explanations. I'll continue my list of differences.
I usually skeptically snicker when I read articles and official documents concerning the German school. After reading official documents written by the Swiss education authorities I had decided to teach my sons about the Hitler's and Stalin's dictatorship and the life of the Holocaust and GULAG survivors. My intention was only to make them to understand the mechanisms of a total state but the idea turned out to be brilliant in many ways.
- I have got a terrible experience.
- No. You have read Bettelheim. This was the terrible experience.
- Yes. You are right. My case cannot be compared with it.
German teachers respect the education level of parents and you could speak with them on base of facts and logic. Swiss teachers think the place where they had studied holds the absolute true in all areas.
By the way, I would speak about many things with people who had educated them. I have a lot of questions.
German teachers try to prevent conflicts between children. Swiss teachers try to prevent the information about conflicts between children.
German teachers try to solve the conflict situations. They often take not optimal decisions but usually they try to do something as adults. Swiss teachers say that the children must "learn how to communicate with classmates" and ignore complains.
It is important to mention for the readers from other cultures that some German teachers who are also unable to handle as adults demand from children that they solve their conflicts by themselves peacefully. The meaning of this "peacefully" is quite similar but German teachers only blame the victim in provoking conflict situations, Swiss teachers strictly prohibit self-defense. (I mention, their goal is not to prevent conflicts but to hide information about them and this is quite difficult if a victim tries to fight back.)
By the way, an official document blames me in giving my son the permission to defend himself. His attempts of self-defense were described as a psychiatric illness.
I think this is also one of the main sources of the Swiss legend about aggressive foreigners.
I would not ask a teenager to list manipulation techniques that were used by the pedagogical staff in a meeting with parents in a German school. Of course German teachers are not always honest but the tricks they use are not as primitive and not as insolent as the attempts of the Swiss colleagues.
I cannot imagine a German teacher who dares to say that two weeks are not enough to speak about bullying or that it is not permitted to speak about bullying in "his school".
Most German parents do not fear the German school administration or the German public authorities.
"The father blames the school in supporting mobbing" is a ground to investigate the situation in a such school for the German supervisory school authorities. In Switzerland this is a ground to take actions against the child's family.
Yes. My attempts to stop bullying are described in official documents as a problematic behavior.
After seeing the proofs of bullying German teachers ask police to come to the school to teach children how to solve conflicts peacefully. The Swiss school asks police to transport a teenager against his will far away from his family to lock him in a corporation that provides foster parents service (with the cost over 200 CHF per day).
(This "bulling prevention" action fails on the next day because it was as poorly planed as other attempts. The total state survival training pays off.)
Of course our case is an exception.
Most children do not have an "asocial education" and they could not defend themselves from the bullying, they would not oppose the pressing of the teachers and they are unable to break free from the foster parents system themselves. The Swiss school is designed in a way that makes it nearly impossible to help the children from outside.
Unfortunately the Swiss education system is not an exception but a direction. German public schools show the same tendencies.
This is not a result of a conspiracy but a synergetic effect produced by many "ordinary" people following their private financial or social interests. Many of them are not evil by nature but rather do not understand the consequences of their "small deeds" or they are "a bit dishonest" and place the "small harm" they produce below their egoistic reasons.
There are a lot of people who try to benefit from the creation of a total state. The number of people who have no fear to oppose it is too small to change negative tendencies.
We were many times told that the (West-)German education is on decline since 80th. The schoolbooks I have seen prove this opinion. However I would say that the Swiss education system is far ahead of German colleagues. If I compare the German and the Swiss education systems I would say in one sentence that this is an ignorant incompetence vs. an aggressive incompetence.
The school education in all European countries has failed to answer the challenges of the new century. The school today mistakes "hamsteredge" for knowledge and extends the Perfection Gap instead of removing it. Most teachers do not have any understanding of the educational psychology, of the pedagogic and even of the disciplines they teach. The explanations of simplest things in schoolbooks are chaotic, abbreviated and incomplete.
There are a lot of attempts to create a "modern school" but the public knows only the advertisements crated by pedagogical theoreticians who get money for describing only real or imagined advantages. I have seen a lot of such advertisements for German and Swiss schools. The first hand experience confirms that they are too optimistic.
Below is a short list of some differences of public schools in Germany and in Switzerland I have experienced myself. I have heard many stories that contain more interesting information. I do not mention them here. There are also many extraordinary achievements in our case and I have an official permission from July 12 2018 to describe them publicly with real names but I would rather wait the results of questions our lawyers had asked official authorities.
Switzerland has much better possibilities to replace a public school with a private school or with homeschooling.
German parents often take their children from private and alternative schools and place them into public schools because they would give their children a better education level in a more competitive environment. Swiss parents advise to avoid public schools at any cost. (This cost is quite high but I agree with this advise.)
You would spend for a private school more than 2000.- CHF per month and per child and in most cases you pay not for an extraordinary education but for a less aggressive environment. However private schools and special schools are the places of exile for "improper children" and my sons have met many interesting kinds of them, both peaceful and not.
This comparison affects only public schools. I also do not explain the common fundamental flaws and describe only differences. In case you do not believe me I could assure you that the reality had exceeded even my worst assumptions. Unfortunately this are not some random errors in a good system. This are the ways this system is designed to operate. I had dug to the roots but I won't start explanations here. Below is a simple list to enjoy and to wonder.
The level of Swiss education is lower than in Germany. I think even lower than in NRW! However I could admit they have more foreign language lessons because French is the second obligatory language of the state. (It seems they are ready to dispose of it in the German speaking part in the near future.)
Schoolbooks are worse. Also are the public school teachers I have seen.
My children had used the ground script ("Grundschrift", a simplified form of handwriting) only in the first year of the German primary school before they had learnt the proper way to hold a pen and could start to use the classical cursive ("Schreibschrift"). The Swiss school describes the writing in cursive as a sin forced by parents.
Yes. This is written in an official document.
German teachers have many funny ideas about mathematics but Germany is far better in it. 12 year old Swiss in the 4th year of the primary school study the multiplication on 2 and have problems with it.
Miraculously enough a ETH student was also unable to divide 28 on 4, was forced to use a calculator and it was clearly seen that he was surprised with the answer. Unfortunately this was the day I brought my primary school old son to Zurich to show him the advances of the Swiss science and of the higher education.
The Swiss schoolbooks I have seen can explain how this misunderstanding of basic mathematical ideas and facts could be achieved but the Swiss ways to teach languages is more interesting.
I have seen the following table on the wall of a class in a primary school. This Hohfuri-table is my absolute favorite.
Präsens / Gegenwart
ich lese wir verlieren du stürzt ihr vergesst er fällt sie jubeln
Präteritum / Vergangenheit 1
ich las wir verloren du stürztest ihr vergasst er fiel sie jubelten
People who know basics of German immediately understand the beauty of the Swiss pedagogic.
For the readers who do not know German I would show the table which could be used in a German school.
Präsens
ich sage wir sagen du sagst ihr sagt er/sie/es sagt sie sagen
Präteritum
ich sagte wir sagten du sagtest ihr sagtet er/sie/es sagte sie sagten
Do you see the difference?
German school would also use a boring clear table for exceptions ("starke Verben") which change the main part such as "bleiben - blieb", "lesen-las", etc. For instance
Präsens
ich lese wir lesen du liest ihr lest er/sie/es liest sie lesen
Präteritum
ich las wir lasen du last ihr last er/sie/es las sie lasen
I was not able to guess the purpose of the Hohfuri-table and of many similar things I have found in Swiss schoolbooks until I had realized the true goals of the Swiss school education. The Swiss do not like to speak about this. Foreigners see the results but do not understand how they had emerged. If you could know the true meaning of the words you could find that the real goals are stated in many official documents and the teachers follow them.
This is going to produce catastrophic results in the future but there are a lot of reasons why many people and organizations get short time benefits from this situation. Swiss misleading form of teaching is truly genial but this is a theme for long explanations. I'll continue my list of differences.
I usually skeptically snicker when I read articles and official documents concerning the German school. After reading official documents written by the Swiss education authorities I had decided to teach my sons about the Hitler's and Stalin's dictatorship and the life of the Holocaust and GULAG survivors. My intention was only to make them to understand the mechanisms of a total state but the idea turned out to be brilliant in many ways.
- I have got a terrible experience.
- No. You have read Bettelheim. This was the terrible experience.
- Yes. You are right. My case cannot be compared with it.
German teachers respect the education level of parents and you could speak with them on base of facts and logic. Swiss teachers think the place where they had studied holds the absolute true in all areas.
By the way, I would speak about many things with people who had educated them. I have a lot of questions.
German teachers try to prevent conflicts between children. Swiss teachers try to prevent the information about conflicts between children.
German teachers try to solve the conflict situations. They often take not optimal decisions but usually they try to do something as adults. Swiss teachers say that the children must "learn how to communicate with classmates" and ignore complains.
It is important to mention for the readers from other cultures that some German teachers who are also unable to handle as adults demand from children that they solve their conflicts by themselves peacefully. The meaning of this "peacefully" is quite similar but German teachers only blame the victim in provoking conflict situations, Swiss teachers strictly prohibit self-defense. (I mention, their goal is not to prevent conflicts but to hide information about them and this is quite difficult if a victim tries to fight back.)
By the way, an official document blames me in giving my son the permission to defend himself. His attempts of self-defense were described as a psychiatric illness.
I think this is also one of the main sources of the Swiss legend about aggressive foreigners.
I would not ask a teenager to list manipulation techniques that were used by the pedagogical staff in a meeting with parents in a German school. Of course German teachers are not always honest but the tricks they use are not as primitive and not as insolent as the attempts of the Swiss colleagues.
I cannot imagine a German teacher who dares to say that two weeks are not enough to speak about bullying or that it is not permitted to speak about bullying in "his school".
Most German parents do not fear the German school administration or the German public authorities.
"The father blames the school in supporting mobbing" is a ground to investigate the situation in a such school for the German supervisory school authorities. In Switzerland this is a ground to take actions against the child's family.
Yes. My attempts to stop bullying are described in official documents as a problematic behavior.
After seeing the proofs of bullying German teachers ask police to come to the school to teach children how to solve conflicts peacefully. The Swiss school asks police to transport a teenager against his will far away from his family to lock him in a corporation that provides foster parents service (with the cost over 200 CHF per day).
(This "bulling prevention" action fails on the next day because it was as poorly planed as other attempts. The total state survival training pays off.)
Of course our case is an exception.
Most children do not have an "asocial education" and they could not defend themselves from the bullying, they would not oppose the pressing of the teachers and they are unable to break free from the foster parents system themselves. The Swiss school is designed in a way that makes it nearly impossible to help the children from outside.
Unfortunately the Swiss education system is not an exception but a direction. German public schools show the same tendencies.
This is not a result of a conspiracy but a synergetic effect produced by many "ordinary" people following their private financial or social interests. Many of them are not evil by nature but rather do not understand the consequences of their "small deeds" or they are "a bit dishonest" and place the "small harm" they produce below their egoistic reasons.
There are a lot of people who try to benefit from the creation of a total state. The number of people who have no fear to oppose it is too small to change negative tendencies.
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Date: 2019-02-09 07:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-09 07:56 am (UTC)"При выборе гимназии обязательно осмотрите мусорные бачки рядом со школой и проверьте много ли там использованных шприцов."
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Date: 2019-02-09 11:23 am (UTC)Sounds familiar. Experienced this first-hand in Russian school in mid 90-s. I think I should be proud that we had Swiss level education at that time :)
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Date: 2019-02-09 12:50 pm (UTC)Thanks. This part is fixed.
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Date: 2019-02-09 02:29 pm (UTC)Не совсем понятно, забирают ли немецкие родители детей из частных школ или же, наооборот, приводят туда.
То, что написано сейчас, можно понять так, что немецкие родители забирают детей из частных школ домой, чтобы учить там с более высоким уровнем конкуренции. Грамматически правильно, но смыл туманен.
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Date: 2019-02-09 02:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-09 02:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-09 02:43 pm (UTC)German parents often take their children from private and alternative schools and place them into public schools because they would give their children a better education level in a more competitive environment.
Грамматически это только черновик. Текст надо редактировать с носителем языка. И, как было сказано в предыдущей дискуссии на эту тему, это не для немцев и швейцарцев, а для иностранцев, так что надо будет ещё и упрощать для тех, кто слабо знает язык.
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Date: 2019-02-09 03:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 02:17 am (UTC)Ведь ещё совсем недавно немецкий учитель (tm) был символом отличного обучения точным и естественным наукам, послетех гимназий ученики шли кто в училища, кто в университеты.
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Date: 2019-02-10 08:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 01:27 pm (UTC)Качественное обучение - это отличные рабочие и инженеры через 10-30 лет, отличные рабочие и инженеры - отличный результат.
Результат мы видели весь ХХ век и, во многом, видим сейчас.
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Date: 2019-02-10 02:08 pm (UTC)Результаты этого века достаточно удручающие. Это и дизельгейт, и ошибка в разводке кабелей в новом аэробусе, и новейший фрегат, спущенный на воду с креном.
Гарвардская система управления эффективно уничтожает немецкую инженерную культуру. А на технические специальности в университетах недобор даже с учётом масс иностранцев.
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Date: 2019-02-10 02:41 pm (UTC)Открыли б чуть пошире ворота для украинцев-белорусов, было бы больше.
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Date: 2019-02-10 03:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 03:25 pm (UTC)Деньги (немалые) + самостоятельно выучить язык.
Логично, даже я бы сказал - правильно, ведь это им нужно.
Но когда стране отчаянно не хватает технарей, можно было бы хотя бы небольшую часть денег тратить на помощь (исключительно по языку, жилью, стипендиям, а не просто так) толковым абитуриентам и студентам из-за границы, а не всяким там (которых из Африки и Азии пускают без спонсоров, без сертификатов, вообще без документов, потом ещё и пособия платят.)
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Date: 2019-02-10 03:36 pm (UTC)Число приезжающих, кстати, падает. Страшных миллионов, которыми всех пугали, не наберут.
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Date: 2019-02-10 08:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 08:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-10 12:33 pm (UTC)и как с таким странным образованием поступить в университет, особенно за границей?
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Date: 2019-02-10 12:55 pm (UTC)Учились бояться математику.
Там очень хитрая система. Формально программа выглядит как нечто приличное и достаточно соответствующее возрасту. Фактически это кошмар, но суть не важна, важна отчётность. Когда я с учителями разговаривал об этом безобразии, меня заверили, что план у них совсем как в Германии.
А в университет большинство учеников поступать не собираются, да и вообще учиться не хотят. Одна из целей обучения - отвадить детей от этой затеи даже в том случае, когда у них есть на то возможность и способности. Но об этом я напишу как-нибудь в другой раз.
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Date: 2019-02-10 01:42 pm (UTC)какой метод разрешения конфликта между детьми лучший?
Date: 2019-02-22 10:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-02-22 11:35 am (UTC)Совсем нет.
Какая возможность "пошалить"? Шалят по обоюдному согласию взрослые на ринге или в постели. И никакая полиция не приезжает. (Кстати, не стоит путать полицию и суд.) Причём на ринге есть судья изначально и он определяет, когда "шалость" превращается в драку.
Насчёт <департамента общественного образования> в том и проблема, что они относятся к детям не так, как ко взрослым. И, похоже, не так, как к разумным существам. (Там много интересного, включая официальные документы министерства образования, но объяснять долго.)
И педагогом пофиг, что между детьми происходит, лишь бы информация не выходила наружу. А, если выходит, чтобы школа не несла никакой ответственности. И самый простой способ - это обвинить жертву. Что успешно и делается.
Это не "если так разрешать конфликты плохо", потому что никакого разрешения конфликтов просто нет. Детей не учат общаться, не учат решать конфликты, а просто обвиняют во всём тех, кого обвинить легче. Если родители начинают возмущаться, под это дело включаются интересные законы.
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Date: 2019-02-22 10:18 pm (UTC)Дети не могут сами решать конфликты, для этого есть Учитель. Жаль только, что видимо он не всегда справляется. Большинство современных взрослых "психов", получили душевную травму именно в детстве, когда "учились разрешать конфликты" без присмотра взрослого.
Легче обвинить плохо знающего язык и обычаи местного населения. Они то на нижненемецком там между собой, а если кто-то даже верхненемецкий не твёрдо знает, то наверное могут быть проблемы.
Лучше вероятно было-бы попробовать учиться среди таких- же как он иностранцев, т.е. в Международной школе, где обучают на английском и верхненемецком. французский там не акцентируют особо.
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Date: 2019-02-22 10:49 pm (UTC)Кому должны?
Мы обсуждаем не шарообразных преподавателей в вакууме, а реальных педагогов. Которые банально заметают весь мусор под ковёр. Кстати, согласно инструкциям. В этом блоге информация об этом идёт уже много лет.
Фраза после "если" не имеет смысла.
Дети решают конфликты, используя определённые модели поведения. Или просто развлекаются дурацкими играми, потому что банально не знают, чем заняться. В нормальной школе у детей нет ни времени, ни желания над кем-то издеваться или делать кому-то больно. Просто потому, что есть более интересные занятия. И "более сильный" роли не играет, потому что на сторону правды встаёт коллектив.
В пятом классе у нас мальчики поругались с девочками, потому что они начали травить одного задрота. И те прекратили.
Да, это была языковая спецшкола в Советском Союзе, то есть по крайней мере половина детей не была из подворотни, но это было нормально для любого круга с которым я общался. Люди с иным поведением считались гопниками.
В классе, где есть нормальный учитель травля просто невозможна, потому что ответственный взрослый может разобрать и прекратить конфликт между детьми в зародыше. Но для этого он должен во-первых, не быть сволочью, а во-вторых, не бояться брать на себя ответственность. В том числе не бояться признать наличие проблемы. Почему в школе нормальных взрослых практически нет - это уже другая тема, которую я сейчас раскрывать не буду.
Дети не могут сами решать конфликты, для этого есть Учитель.
Это несустветная чушь. В Советском Союзе мы гуляли с утра до вечера во дворе и никто к нам не был приставлен. Большинство конфликтов нормальные дети могут решать лет с восьми. К четырнадцати это уже вполне вменяемые разумные люди. Если специально их не отучать от этого. Что делают в современной европейской школе, пытаясь вместо "тупая истеричка" писать Учительница с большой буквы.
Легче обвинить плохо знающего язык и обычаи местного населения.
Это ещё более-менее можно было бы применить к Германии, где и язык, и культура достаточно однородны (хотя во многих случаях детей иностранцев в классе больше коренных немцев), в Швейцарии ни хорошего знания языка, ни устоявшихся обычаев нет. И одно из обвинений младшему - слишком хорошо знает немецкий язык, что обижает его одноклассников. (В количестве нескольких придурков, но это уже учителя упоминать забывают.)
"Обычаи местного населения" - это "be silent, be afraid and hope you won't be involved".
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Date: 2019-09-09 03:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-09-09 03:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-09-10 02:42 pm (UTC)в немецкой Швейцарии же, вроде, говорят на своём диалекте немецкого, но пишут литературным немецким. кка они с этим справляются в школе ?
> Swiss teachers strictly prohibit self-defense.
> an official document blames me in giving my son the permission to defend himself. His attempts of self-defense were described as a psychiatric illness.
Если бы сын первым напал на Швейцарского ученика - они бы тому ученику prohibited self-defense ? Или это в одну сторону, только иностранцу prohibited self-defense ?
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Date: 2019-09-10 03:28 pm (UTC)Там диалектов дофига. Или, проще говоря, как говорят, так и диалект.
"но пишут литературным немецким."
Почти. Пишут как умеют.
"как они с этим справляются в школе?"
Хреново. И, вообще, можно прочитать с шестнадцатого года по тегам про обучение, Швейцарию или детей, чтобы не задавать наводящих вопросов. Там много и с разных сторон. Блог пересказывать мне совершенно лень.
"Если бы сын первым напал на Швейцарского ученика - они бы тому ученику prohibited self-defense ? Или это в одну сторону, только иностранцу prohibited self-defense?"
В официальной бумаге написано, что "не смотря на то, что он слабее". (Да, у меня тоже осталось много вопросов к этой формулировке.)
А так, когда много бьют одного, то тот не должен защищаться, потому что дети так играют, а он не социален. Швейцарец - не швейцарец тут роли не играет. Швейцарцы просто меньше возникают, когда на них всей толпой нападают. Плюс иностранцу можно какую-нибудь дикость приписать. Или одной из сторон расизм, если другая окажется чёрной или какой ещё.